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Centaurs Don't Have Bellybuttons!

Sun Dec 9, 2007, 12:55 AM
I recognize that few if any will read this, but I need to get this fact off my stomach, as it were.

Centaurs look like they are a blending of Homo sapiens and equines; A sort of Homo equinus. That's fine, though, and I have given this way too much thought frankly, centaurs are neither man nor horse but an entirely different being that arose not from the Father of Greek mythology, Zeus, having his way with an unsuspecting mare while posing as a stallion, but from a lesser deity, Ixion, mating with the cloud-being Nemphale and producing male, bestial offspring. At least as far as I remember, that's the myth. I'm open for correction. (I haven't gone racing off to do research in Bullfinch's Mythology while writing this.)

Anyway, because of this difference, I would think that this fact---that centaurs do not possess a human umbilicus---would be fairly obvious. Yet, I find that even though that is obviously so, most accomplished artists like, for example, Boris Vallejo and his wife, Julie Bell, (IMHO, truly great illustrators) insist on giving centaurs a human navel.

Let's be a little bit realistic in our fantasy realm centaur creators, eh? I think most artists whose work isn't primarily abstraction or full of surrealistic symbols strive to present a realistic view of mythical beings. We try to make them look like they actually can and do exist. At least that is what I strive for, with frequently mixed results.

The centaur can be a very difficult subject because of the almost unnatural appearing division that can arise between the being's human-like torso and its equine-like trunk, that area that most artists fail to master when executing a centaur picture. Getting the musculature and hide covering those muscles at the blending point just right is really tricky. When it is achieved, it is a thing of beauty to behold. The realistic blending makes the mythical become, in effect, real.

You can say it is a matter of taste, but if a centaur were to actually be born of a centauress dam with two umbilical cords, the birth would be a nightmare of entanglement. There would be a lot of death during child birth. And what, pray tell, could be the reason for two umbilicals on any creature? Oh, you say, that the centaur has multiple stomachs and thus needs more than one umbilicus? Well, I really have to disagree for artistic and logical reasons with that thinking. I have read so many different interpretations of what a centaur actually might be it leaves my head spinning. I'm going with this overarching concept: The centaur is an animal that is mammalian in nature. Mammals have only one umbilicus and so too does this mammal, the centaur.

So there you have my reasoning for supporting a ban forevermore on depicting centaurs with flagrant midsection-marring bellybuttons. I don't care if they are "innies" or "outies" and whether or not they might appear as sexy as the cut and defined abdomen of a fit centaur, or the idea that the human torso looks somehow incomplete without that depression sitting there. A bellybutton doesn't belong there any more than horns do on the centaur's head. (Sue me, I'm a damned purist. Though I find myself far more tolerant of horns than I do the lowly and ineffective umbilicus.)

Please, in the future when creating more arguably realistic centaurs, try to correct this lamentable oversight. Deep six the damned navel. Put a second one on a satyr or a faun, it makes as much sense! Draw them on all your oranges. But don't ever do it on a centaur!

It's insulting!

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:iconnightmaregk13:
dear lord how could i have been so stupid eesh need to go and correct that asap

and i agree Julie Bell and Boris Vallejo are the best illustrators around

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:iconacornah:
Interesting, I never thought about the navel concept. I'll keep that in mind for future deviations. Thanks for faving Stairway to Heaven!

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:icondarkdragon774:
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... It's always puzzled me how the centaur's organ system would work, an this so far makes sense...

Hmm, so how many hearts would you say they have? Or perhaps just one big one, and more so, for lungs, etc...

Interesting philosophy, yes? :)

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I don't know of any critters with multiple hearts, but I suppose anything is possible even if it isn't possible on this plane. If you can think it, it exists somewhere. I guess that would apply to the belly button thing, too. But my aesthetic says "NO!" to that one. The same way it says no to the multiple genitalia depicted on some centaur photomanips and the business of a unicorn horn sprouting from the forehead. Would any creature with such a sharp spike protruding from their head ever be able to have a romantic life of any sort? Not likely. Yea, they'd be so damned angry and maddened by the thing that they would have to become warriors or just monstrous killers. You can't give a creature a compelling need to reproduce and an impediment to that possibility. That might explain why there are no centaurs today. They all were so "horny" that they were incapable of satisfying their needs. Talk about natural selection.

I would go with the idea that the pulmonary system runs through both the human and equine halves. If someone else has a better explanation I would enjoy hearing it.

Centaur Anatomy 101 sounds like a course of study that might be taught here at DA. LOL.
:icondarkdragon774:
Lol, yes! When does centaur 101 class start? :)

Heh. Yeah, I have no idea who ever came up with the whole unicorn horn thing! :confused: Same for the large tusks they sometimes give them. Probably just one's taste, I presume.

Here's another interesting question, and it really tickles me: would the horse part of the centaur actually be able to "digest" or consume meat? I'm guessing that the answer might lie in whether they have multiple stomachs or not... :)

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:iconcentaureg:
I really think you have hit on the most important question regarding whether or not a centaur is part horse or equine. And the question of centaurs being carnivores extends beyond just the issue of the multiple stomachs being able to digest meat or not. Are centaur teeth like human teeth designed for omnivores or are they broader and wider and designed for grain and grass consumption? Horses are, to a lesser degree, carnivores of a sort if you consider the fact that they eat insects, grubs, snails, worms and such in their fodder and must do so to gain the necessary fat and protein they must have to survive.

There is a famous Italian statue that shows a centaur with the rabbit he has just slain as well as some shafts of wheat. They idea presented by the artist is that, like humans, centaurs are (were) omnivores. I would accept that concept as having merit. Remember, animals have the features they have because they are what enabled them to survive over the long haul. Such as human's ability to store fat easily for times of famine. Perhaps, over the course of their history, centaurs they developed the ability to consume meat.

But, since centaurs currently do not exist on this plane does that mean that natural selection weeded them out or did early mankind and other predators do the job? Or does it just mean that they never existed on this plane to begin with?

Maybe these creatures are still around but invisible to mere mortal humans. Maybe they have "magical" abilities that have helped them to survive somewhere other than in our immediate conscious reality. Frankly, my philosophy is that thought creates and the more we think of centaurs the more likely their creation. So keep some good thoughts! Fantasy can be morphed into reality.

I don't eat red meat and haven't since 1975. I don't drink either. For almost just as long a period. Centaurs are frequently depicted as drunken ruffians (as are satyrs). Based on my behavior, I either have nothing in common with a centaur identity or, perhaps, the human legends are very convoluted and filled with misinformation that demeans centaurs in order to present a more superior picture of humans by comparison. It is fairly easy to see that a centaur would be far stronger and more virile than any mere monkey man. What better way to up the human ante than to do it at the expense of creatures that so markedly differ from us? It is only recently in our history that anyone has ventured forward to favor the idea that any other animal could be entirely superior to Homo sapiens as has been the case in the study of cetaceans like porpoises and orcas.

If you haven't seen "Harry Potter and The Order of The Phoenix", I suggest you rent it for the brief scene featuring the herd of centaurs from the Dark Forest. Very good special effects. And, as far as I can tell, none of the centaurs have belly buttons!

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